Stats for the Cloud9 and Empire as they've appeared on Tipify
A list of recent matches this team has played, green indicates a win and red a loss. Blue is a draw/cancelled
Cloud9 showed good and bad things the last time we saw them. They looked good in parts, and then poor in others. They took a map off LG which I don’t think many people expected, and on Mirage they looked incredibly strong. Skadoodle and n0thing seemed to be back to their prime and with Stewie stepping it up lately, shroud being consistent, and slemmy doing his job, the future looks bright for the C9 boys. Empire are a decent upcoming CIS side, who have one of the best upcoming players in electronic and some good experience in Kucher. It would be a massssiiiive upset for Empire to take this, but it would also be another nail in the coffin of the story of clown9 that seems to go on forever. If Empire are anything around 10%, you really should just ICB on them for a BO1. The risk is too high for anything else. I could see Mirage being played, which is a good map for Empire, but they will need to show a level they have never shown before, to take this one.
My odds for this match: Cloud9 80:20 Empire
So this match may seem very one sided, but people don’t realize that Empire is not a bad team and they could easily upset any North American team in a best of one, and on the other side we haev jetlagged Cloud9 who were playing quite well lately, but I still feel like they are inconsistent and I don’t trust them yet.
The recent results of Empire are not very good, mostly because they didn’t really have a chance to play against any stronger teams, they did lose one match against Fluffy Gangsters and that’s pretty embarassing, but overall their fragging power is really good and they just need strats, pretty sure kUcher showed them some stuff.
Cloud9 went to the final of their group in ELEAGUE by beating Renegades and Liquid, their final opponent was Luminosity and honestly Cloud9 did way better than I expected, they won the first map quite convincingly, barely lost the second one 16-19 in overtime and got wrecked on the last one, pretty sure they were very upset after not being able to close it out on cobblestone, and that was the reason of their weak performance on the last map, but overall they played great. Cloud9 also won a ton of matches in ECS, they beat teams like TSM, compLexity, Liquid and CLG, all those matches were very close but Cloud9 managed to win in the end.
I’d say Cloud9’s biggest advantage is staying together for a long time and knowing each other very well, they are definitely better strategically, but when it comes to the fragging power, I think Empire are not that far behind and can be scary today. The current odds are very bad and I’d rather go with an ICB on Empire, not worth risking with medium or high bets on Cloud9 with barely any return.
My odds for this match: Cloud9 80:20 Empire
Once again a BO1 that C9 should be winning here. I feel like while yes Empire can do some damage here, they have not really shown us what they are capable of for quite some time, and seem to have off a bit. When Empire replaced Fix for Kucher a few months back, I was actually quite excited for the roster, however they haven’t seem to have been able to push themselves much beyond anything that they were previously able to achieve, so that is rather disappointing. I feel like this C9 roster does have potential, and well at least should not be dropping to Empire here. The longer Slemmy gets to be apart of the team, the more he can introduce his ideas and improve the team, or well at least it should be like that. I feel like Stewie has developed a whole bunch as a player, and has become one of the more influential players in the team, somebody you can look to for key performances and if him, Shroud and Ska can all perform, it is gg wp for Empire. This is a BO1 however, so I would be careful since we saw yesterday with SK vs Astralis how things can go sour, even on good maps and what not. Overall, 75-25 C9
7% C9 under 82%, otherwise SKIP/ICB Empire
My odds = 75-25 C9
My risk = Medium
My bet = 7% C9 under 82%, otherwise SKIP/ICB Empire
My advice = Same as my bet
My odds for this match: Cloud9 75:25 Empire
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